diff --git a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp
index 65cb4ce36..4ebd2f4d7 100644
--- a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@ MeshPacket *MeshPlugin::allocErrorResponse(Routing_Error err, const MeshPacket *
     return r;
 }
 
-void MeshPlugin::callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp)
+void MeshPlugin::callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp, RxSource src)
 {
     // DEBUG_MSG("In call plugins\n");
     bool pluginFound = false;
@@ -79,6 +79,7 @@ void MeshPlugin::callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp)
     // Was this message directed to us specifically?  Will be false if we are sniffing someone elses packets
     auto ourNodeNum = nodeDB.getNodeNum();
     bool toUs = mp.to == NODENUM_BROADCAST || mp.to == ourNodeNum;
+
     for (auto i = plugins->begin(); i != plugins->end(); ++i) {
         auto &pi = **i;
 
@@ -87,6 +88,11 @@ void MeshPlugin::callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp)
         /// We only call plugins that are interested in the packet (and the message is destined to us or we are promiscious)
         bool wantsPacket = (isDecoded || pi.encryptedOk) && (pi.isPromiscuous || toUs) && pi.wantPacket(&mp);
 
+        if ((src == RX_SRC_LOCAL) && !(pi.loopbackOk)) {
+            // new case, monitor separately for now, then FIXME merge above
+            wantsPacket = false;
+        }
+
         assert(!pi.myReply); // If it is !null it means we have a bug, because it should have been sent the previous time
 
         if (wantsPacket) {
@@ -169,7 +175,9 @@ void MeshPlugin::callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp)
     }
 
     if (!pluginFound)
-        DEBUG_MSG("No plugins interested in portnum=%d\n", mp.decoded.portnum);
+        DEBUG_MSG("No plugins interested in portnum=%d, src=%s\n",
+                    mp.decoded.portnum, 
+                    (src == RX_SRC_LOCAL) ? "LOCAL":"REMOTE");
 }
 
 MeshPacket *MeshPlugin::allocReply()
diff --git a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h
index 937c37dfe..2350c951a 100644
--- a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h
+++ b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ class MeshPlugin
 
     /** For use only by MeshService
      */
-    static void callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp);
+    static void callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp, RxSource src = RX_SRC_RADIO);
 
     static std::vector<MeshPlugin *> GetMeshPluginsWithUIFrames();
 #ifndef NO_SCREEN
@@ -48,6 +48,10 @@ class MeshPlugin
     */
     bool isPromiscuous = false;
 
+    /** Also receive a copy of LOCALLY GENERATED messages - most plugins should leave
+     *  this setting disabled - see issue #877 */
+    bool loopbackOk = false;
+
     /** Most plugins only understand decrypted packets.  For plugins that also want to see encrypted packets, they should set this
      * flag */
     bool encryptedOk = false;
diff --git a/src/mesh/MeshTypes.h b/src/mesh/MeshTypes.h
index 34d4f02c9..d45194d4f 100644
--- a/src/mesh/MeshTypes.h
+++ b/src/mesh/MeshTypes.h
@@ -15,6 +15,14 @@ typedef uint32_t PacketId; // A packet sequence number
 #define ERRNO_UNKNOWN 32  // pick something that doesn't conflict with RH_ROUTER_ERROR_UNABLE_TO_DELIVER
 #define ERRNO_DISABLED 34 // the itnerface is disabled
 
+/*
+ * Source of a received message
+ */
+enum RxSource {
+    RX_SRC_LOCAL,  // message was generated locally
+    RX_SRC_RADIO   // message was received from radio mesh
+};
+
 /**
  * the max number of hops a message can pass through, used as the default max for hop_limit in MeshPacket.
  *
diff --git a/src/mesh/Router.cpp b/src/mesh/Router.cpp
index 1c5d70101..3cf81be2f 100644
--- a/src/mesh/Router.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/Router.cpp
@@ -161,7 +161,7 @@ ErrorCode Router::sendLocal(MeshPacket *p)
         // If we are sending a broadcast, we also treat it as if we just received it ourself
         // this allows local apps (and PCs) to see broadcasts sourced locally
         if (p->to == NODENUM_BROADCAST) {
-            handleReceived(p);
+            handleReceived(p, RX_SRC_LOCAL);
         }
 
         return send(p);
@@ -324,7 +324,7 @@ NodeNum Router::getNodeNum()
  * Handle any packet that is received by an interface on this node.
  * Note: some packets may merely being passed through this node and will be forwarded elsewhere.
  */
-void Router::handleReceived(MeshPacket *p)
+void Router::handleReceived(MeshPacket *p, RxSource src)
 {
     // Also, we should set the time from the ISR and it should have msec level resolution
     p->rx_time = getValidTime(RTCQualityFromNet); // store the arrival timestamp for the phone
@@ -333,13 +333,16 @@ void Router::handleReceived(MeshPacket *p)
     bool decoded = perhapsDecode(p);
     if (decoded) {
         // parsing was successful, queue for our recipient
-        printPacket("handleReceived", p);
+        if (src == RX_SRC_LOCAL)
+            printPacket("handleReceived(local)", p);
+        else
+            printPacket("handleReceived(remote)", p);
     } else {
         printPacket("packet decoding failed (no PSK?)", p);
     }
 
     // call plugins here
-    MeshPlugin::callPlugins(*p);
+    MeshPlugin::callPlugins(*p, src);
 }
 
 void Router::perhapsHandleReceived(MeshPacket *p)
diff --git a/src/mesh/Router.h b/src/mesh/Router.h
index 9d7358af5..519f158f7 100644
--- a/src/mesh/Router.h
+++ b/src/mesh/Router.h
@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ class Router : protected concurrency::OSThread
      * Note: this packet will never be called for messages sent/generated by this node.
      * Note: this method will free the provided packet.
      */
-    void handleReceived(MeshPacket *p);
+    void handleReceived(MeshPacket *p, RxSource src = RX_SRC_RADIO);
 
     /** Frees the provided packet, and generates a NAK indicating the speicifed error while sending */
     void abortSendAndNak(Routing_Error err, MeshPacket *p);